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		<title>By: HANK055</title>
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		<dc:creator>HANK055</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I have stated before, you can go out and try to mingle
and talk to people. The problem for me is there aren&#039;t any
single women to meet. I still find it awkward to always be
going out alone and I&#039;m sure they do as well. What to do
then. I&#039;m 54 and self employed. Some people tell me I don&#039;t look near that old and can&#039;t imagine why I don&#039;t attract
women. I like outdoor activities such as golf, hiking,and
kayaking.What should I do,stand at the first tee and hit on every woman that comes along? Staying home isn&#039;t much of an option so I just keep plodding along best I can.
Jayne, I know what you&#039;re talking about living in a small town. Don&#039;t worry about it. If you get an opportunity go for it. Most of my friends are married so we don&#039;t really have that much in common to begin with.Their lives are hectic and without much free time. There are times when I 
get so frustrated I tell myself this is probably as good
as it&#039;s ever gonna get. 
Peter, save your money! My take is that you might be a little self-conscious.Believe me,I&#039;ve been there.What
helped me was the fact that I have to talk to a lot of
different kind of people being in business.It may help you just talking to anyone,not necessarily a potential date.You can gain some confidence in yourself and that will go a long way! Forget that stuff they tell you on the dating advice websites. If I had a nickel for every woman that twirled her hair or crossed her legs while talking to me I&#039;d be driving a Porsche.They just want to make money off of guys like us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I have stated before, you can go out and try to mingle<br />
and talk to people. The problem for me is there aren&#8217;t any<br />
single women to meet. I still find it awkward to always be<br />
going out alone and I&#8217;m sure they do as well. What to do<br />
then. I&#8217;m 54 and self employed. Some people tell me I don&#8217;t look near that old and can&#8217;t imagine why I don&#8217;t attract<br />
women. I like outdoor activities such as golf, hiking,and<br />
kayaking.What should I do,stand at the first tee and hit on every woman that comes along? Staying home isn&#8217;t much of an option so I just keep plodding along best I can.<br />
Jayne, I know what you&#8217;re talking about living in a small town. Don&#8217;t worry about it. If you get an opportunity go for it. Most of my friends are married so we don&#8217;t really have that much in common to begin with.Their lives are hectic and without much free time. There are times when I<br />
get so frustrated I tell myself this is probably as good<br />
as it&#8217;s ever gonna get.<br />
Peter, save your money! My take is that you might be a little self-conscious.Believe me,I&#8217;ve been there.What<br />
helped me was the fact that I have to talk to a lot of<br />
different kind of people being in business.It may help you just talking to anyone,not necessarily a potential date.You can gain some confidence in yourself and that will go a long way! Forget that stuff they tell you on the dating advice websites. If I had a nickel for every woman that twirled her hair or crossed her legs while talking to me I&#8217;d be driving a Porsche.They just want to make money off of guys like us!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nina,

 I&#039;ve moved waaaayyyyy too much in my life. I&#039;ve transfered twice to different Colleges. Moving doesnt solve anything. 
 
 Psychologists suck. All they do is sit in their stupid little offices and listen to you. They don&#039;t actually see how you act out in public which would help me so much. I&#039;ve tried finding a social coach (a guy around my age) to show me how to interact with people and point out what I&#039;m doing wrong. Trouble is most of these guys don&#039;t know how bad I really struggle and gave lame feedback like, &quot;You gotta relax&quot; or &quot;You gotta follow up with your interactions.&quot; Most of the time the assholes dont even GIVE feedback. Arrrghhh it&#039;s so aggrivating! Every time I go talk to someone I feel like a loser.

 I&#039;ve thought about paying a pro on the internet to come out with me for a day, but they charge insane fees. Has anyone here hired one before?

 Again sorry to be so negative, but my life is hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nina,</p>
<p> I&#8217;ve moved waaaayyyyy too much in my life. I&#8217;ve transfered twice to different Colleges. Moving doesnt solve anything. </p>
<p> Psychologists suck. All they do is sit in their stupid little offices and listen to you. They don&#8217;t actually see how you act out in public which would help me so much. I&#8217;ve tried finding a social coach (a guy around my age) to show me how to interact with people and point out what I&#8217;m doing wrong. Trouble is most of these guys don&#8217;t know how bad I really struggle and gave lame feedback like, &#8220;You gotta relax&#8221; or &#8220;You gotta follow up with your interactions.&#8221; Most of the time the assholes dont even GIVE feedback. Arrrghhh it&#8217;s so aggrivating! Every time I go talk to someone I feel like a loser.</p>
<p> I&#8217;ve thought about paying a pro on the internet to come out with me for a day, but they charge insane fees. Has anyone here hired one before?</p>
<p> Again sorry to be so negative, but my life is hell.</p>
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		<title>By: Aiden Sabine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aiden Sabine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pick something delicious, fancy, and indulgent.  If you&#039;re gonna do it alone, might as well make it special.

Look through the thread from January 1st through January 16th 2010, for context.  Dee and I met up on the 15th.  If you considered the circumstances, what would you have thought before the meeting?  As it turned out, it went great.  Dee is a great person, and we still talk and text.  It helps that everything was out in the open from the beginning, a lot of the details were taken care of via email and instant messaging, and there was no pretense of anything.  We just met and enjoyed.  Like anything else, simple is best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pick something delicious, fancy, and indulgent.  If you&#8217;re gonna do it alone, might as well make it special.</p>
<p>Look through the thread from January 1st through January 16th 2010, for context.  Dee and I met up on the 15th.  If you considered the circumstances, what would you have thought before the meeting?  As it turned out, it went great.  Dee is a great person, and we still talk and text.  It helps that everything was out in the open from the beginning, a lot of the details were taken care of via email and instant messaging, and there was no pretense of anything.  We just met and enjoyed.  Like anything else, simple is best.</p>
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		<title>By: Jayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Aiden.  I never do expect anyone to do anything for me, but it is nice to have them do things with me.  I have been 100% self-sufficient since I was 17 years old, so I am used to taking care of myself.  I&#039;ve just never been able to bring myself to eat alone.  Clearly some people think that&#039;s strange... 

I am absolutely going to pick a place and just do it.  You&#039;re right, any result can be better than none at all.  

I am very curious now though about the meeting you  had with someone from this forum.. How did it go?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Aiden.  I never do expect anyone to do anything for me, but it is nice to have them do things with me.  I have been 100% self-sufficient since I was 17 years old, so I am used to taking care of myself.  I&#8217;ve just never been able to bring myself to eat alone.  Clearly some people think that&#8217;s strange&#8230; </p>
<p>I am absolutely going to pick a place and just do it.  You&#8217;re right, any result can be better than none at all.  </p>
<p>I am very curious now though about the meeting you  had with someone from this forum.. How did it go?</p>
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		<title>By: Aiden Sabine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aiden Sabine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do I sense a paralysis by analysis here, Peter and Jayne?

Whether alone or not, with the attention of others or not, just do it.  Beyond the obvious reasons, sometimes what people find the most attractive is someone who could throw caution to the wind and do what it takes no matter what.  I sympathize with the two of you, don&#039;t get me wrong.  But who else will do it for you?  Sometimes, any result is better than none at all.

I did that earlier this year when I arranged to meet someone off of this very forum.  So many ways that could have gone, eh? But not much in the way of thought or reason needed beyond some common sense, an open mind, and a willingness to have fun with it. I could chalk that up as one of the most empowering things I&#039;ve tried.  Or I could have Virgoed (overthought) the shit out of it and not had the moment.

BTW, Jayne, I had lunch by myself on Saturday.  Perfectly normal, girl, no one will think of you any less.  The spaghetti with shrimp and Peroni beer was a potent distraction, as was the weather.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do I sense a paralysis by analysis here, Peter and Jayne?</p>
<p>Whether alone or not, with the attention of others or not, just do it.  Beyond the obvious reasons, sometimes what people find the most attractive is someone who could throw caution to the wind and do what it takes no matter what.  I sympathize with the two of you, don&#8217;t get me wrong.  But who else will do it for you?  Sometimes, any result is better than none at all.</p>
<p>I did that earlier this year when I arranged to meet someone off of this very forum.  So many ways that could have gone, eh? But not much in the way of thought or reason needed beyond some common sense, an open mind, and a willingness to have fun with it. I could chalk that up as one of the most empowering things I&#8217;ve tried.  Or I could have Virgoed (overthought) the shit out of it and not had the moment.</p>
<p>BTW, Jayne, I had lunch by myself on Saturday.  Perfectly normal, girl, no one will think of you any less.  The spaghetti with shrimp and Peroni beer was a potent distraction, as was the weather.</p>
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		<title>By: nina</title>
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		<dc:creator>nina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, Peter you have Superbowl tickets???  Sorry, I&#039;m a bit of a smartass at times.  Its hard to say what, if anything, is causing a lack of success in the dating game.  This is where it would be nice to have a trusted friend around that could observe and who has the balls to be brutally honest. 

Since you are young and single have ya thought about moving? Go to a city thats young, packed with things you enjoy and just live. Maybe the change in venue without the need to work so hard to be in situations where folks actually interact could open up some avenues for friendship and dating.   

{{HUGS}}Refugio...dude, those folks need to leave you alone.  You are 25.  Not that someone shouldn&#039;t get married at that age but dang, go out and live a little, have your career or do that which makes you happiest for now (keep in mind I got a few years on you and oh to be 25 again...wouldn&#039;t I do some things differently).  Of course its hurtful when you want the very thing these well meaning but over enthusiastic friends keep rubbing in your face.  Do not be afraid to tell them to knock it off because of how it makes you feel.  If they care about your feelings, they will listen.   In the meantime be patient, heed your own words and something good will come.  I can&#039;t say when but it will.  
@Jayne: Oh girlfriend...we need to talk.  Hey Livid where are ya?  Same situation here in terms of previously married for 10 years and the issue with having friends to do things with.  I have some wonderful friends BUT they are at different place in their lives and our interest are different.  My horse friends have no interest in going to see live music or travel and my music friends live out of state.  Many have young kids, no money, no time, or are dealing with their own hell. Going it alone is tough and I&#039;ll leave the gents on here to provide opinion (I&#039;d be interested too) BUT I think it does depend on what it is.  Going to the gym or driving range I wouldn&#039;t think would raise a flag.  I go to the track by myself and that hasn&#039;t raised an eyebrow (they are more surprised to see a woman with all her teeth so the alone part never comes up).  The bar is tougher.  I have done that and dinder alone and I squirm a bit each time but once you strike up a conversation with someone..ANYONE, you settle in.  I have been asked if I was alone but never made to feel pitiful.  And if there is a TV it is a godsend if feeling really awkward.  For dining, I always have a book if I&#039;m not feeling particularly courageous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, Peter you have Superbowl tickets???  Sorry, I&#8217;m a bit of a smartass at times.  Its hard to say what, if anything, is causing a lack of success in the dating game.  This is where it would be nice to have a trusted friend around that could observe and who has the balls to be brutally honest. </p>
<p>Since you are young and single have ya thought about moving? Go to a city thats young, packed with things you enjoy and just live. Maybe the change in venue without the need to work so hard to be in situations where folks actually interact could open up some avenues for friendship and dating.   </p>
<p>{{HUGS}}Refugio&#8230;dude, those folks need to leave you alone.  You are 25.  Not that someone shouldn&#8217;t get married at that age but dang, go out and live a little, have your career or do that which makes you happiest for now (keep in mind I got a few years on you and oh to be 25 again&#8230;wouldn&#8217;t I do some things differently).  Of course its hurtful when you want the very thing these well meaning but over enthusiastic friends keep rubbing in your face.  Do not be afraid to tell them to knock it off because of how it makes you feel.  If they care about your feelings, they will listen.   In the meantime be patient, heed your own words and something good will come.  I can&#8217;t say when but it will.<br />
@Jayne: Oh girlfriend&#8230;we need to talk.  Hey Livid where are ya?  Same situation here in terms of previously married for 10 years and the issue with having friends to do things with.  I have some wonderful friends BUT they are at different place in their lives and our interest are different.  My horse friends have no interest in going to see live music or travel and my music friends live out of state.  Many have young kids, no money, no time, or are dealing with their own hell. Going it alone is tough and I&#8217;ll leave the gents on here to provide opinion (I&#8217;d be interested too) BUT I think it does depend on what it is.  Going to the gym or driving range I wouldn&#8217;t think would raise a flag.  I go to the track by myself and that hasn&#8217;t raised an eyebrow (they are more surprised to see a woman with all her teeth so the alone part never comes up).  The bar is tougher.  I have done that and dinder alone and I squirm a bit each time but once you strike up a conversation with someone..ANYONE, you settle in.  I have been asked if I was alone but never made to feel pitiful.  And if there is a TV it is a godsend if feeling really awkward.  For dining, I always have a book if I&#8217;m not feeling particularly courageous.</p>
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		<title>By: Jayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this SO interesting!  I&#039;m a 44 year old woman, who honestly believed that men couldn&#039;t possibly have as much trouble as I have finding someone.. Obviously, I was very wrong.  

I was married for 10 years, I have an 18 year old son, I have several wonderful friends, a great job, a full and happy life.  But I&#039;m still single after being divorced for 13 years!  I&#039;ve had a few long-term relationships, but still nothing that turns into forever.  

My biggest problem is that my friends don&#039;t go out.  They all started later in life than I did, so they still have young kids, or are so happily married that they always stay home. Some are even pregnant now.  I live in a very small town and don&#039;t want to date anyone who hangs out at the local places because if it doesn&#039;t work out, it&#039;s uncomfortable for us and our mutual friends. (Learned this the hard way.) But have no one to go elsewhere with... What&#039;s a girl to do? 

Tried online dating, and while I appeared to be very  popular, (are all women?) and even dated someone for 6 months from it, I really don&#039;t want to try that again.  There were a LOT more frogs than princes it seemed. 

I&#039;m really at a loss as to what to do.  Everything I read says that I need to &quot;get out there&quot;.  Ok, but by myself?  What do you guys think about a woman having dinner at a restaurant bar alone? I&#039;m always afraid that people will think me a desperate, lonely, sad woman. While I&#039;d like to say I don&#039;t care what others think, that&#039;s total BS.  Unfortunately.  

I know everyone says this, but I have been told I&#039;m very attractive.  I think I look pretty young, I am in better shape now than I was when I was 20.   Size 2, etc... Yet I still worry that I&#039;ll look desperate.  Would really like to know what others think.  Any suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this SO interesting!  I&#8217;m a 44 year old woman, who honestly believed that men couldn&#8217;t possibly have as much trouble as I have finding someone.. Obviously, I was very wrong.  </p>
<p>I was married for 10 years, I have an 18 year old son, I have several wonderful friends, a great job, a full and happy life.  But I&#8217;m still single after being divorced for 13 years!  I&#8217;ve had a few long-term relationships, but still nothing that turns into forever.  </p>
<p>My biggest problem is that my friends don&#8217;t go out.  They all started later in life than I did, so they still have young kids, or are so happily married that they always stay home. Some are even pregnant now.  I live in a very small town and don&#8217;t want to date anyone who hangs out at the local places because if it doesn&#8217;t work out, it&#8217;s uncomfortable for us and our mutual friends. (Learned this the hard way.) But have no one to go elsewhere with&#8230; What&#8217;s a girl to do? </p>
<p>Tried online dating, and while I appeared to be very  popular, (are all women?) and even dated someone for 6 months from it, I really don&#8217;t want to try that again.  There were a LOT more frogs than princes it seemed. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m really at a loss as to what to do.  Everything I read says that I need to &#8220;get out there&#8221;.  Ok, but by myself?  What do you guys think about a woman having dinner at a restaurant bar alone? I&#8217;m always afraid that people will think me a desperate, lonely, sad woman. While I&#8217;d like to say I don&#8217;t care what others think, that&#8217;s total BS.  Unfortunately.  </p>
<p>I know everyone says this, but I have been told I&#8217;m very attractive.  I think I look pretty young, I am in better shape now than I was when I was 20.   Size 2, etc&#8230; Yet I still worry that I&#8217;ll look desperate.  Would really like to know what others think.  Any suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aiden,

 Thanks for the links, but I&#039;ve tried those approaches. They don&#039;t work. I have no (male) friends here. My family is scattered and has no friends. It&#039;s hard going out alone when you don&#039;t know a soul or have anyone to invite you places. 
 It&#039;s emotional succide going up to girls in coffee shops and trying to start converstations for me. I&#039;m not kidding. I did so much of that years ago and just got shut down nearly every time.
 I seem to have a negative charisma that automatically makes people dislike me. I hate being negative, but the results have shown. Seriously, fuck all those pick-up artists and their stupid books. They&#039;ve done more damage to me than help. 
 I know this all sounds so negative, but it&#039;s literally true. I couldn&#039;t get a date if I had Superbowl tickets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aiden,</p>
<p> Thanks for the links, but I&#8217;ve tried those approaches. They don&#8217;t work. I have no (male) friends here. My family is scattered and has no friends. It&#8217;s hard going out alone when you don&#8217;t know a soul or have anyone to invite you places.<br />
 It&#8217;s emotional succide going up to girls in coffee shops and trying to start converstations for me. I&#8217;m not kidding. I did so much of that years ago and just got shut down nearly every time.<br />
 I seem to have a negative charisma that automatically makes people dislike me. I hate being negative, but the results have shown. Seriously, fuck all those pick-up artists and their stupid books. They&#8217;ve done more damage to me than help.<br />
 I know this all sounds so negative, but it&#8217;s literally true. I couldn&#8217;t get a date if I had Superbowl tickets.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hank,

 How old are you? Respect to you no matter what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hank,</p>
<p> How old are you? Respect to you no matter what.</p>
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		<title>By: Refugio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Refugio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 06:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been surrounded all my life buy friends and family. I have been alone all my life leaning on myself and being tough on valentines dayt, new years eve, at the beach, in my studies, at work, and anywhere that reminds me that Im alone ( thats virtually everywhere).I tried wearing an engagement band so people would stop asking why an attractive 25 year old man was doing without a woman. I get upset when my well meaning friends and family try to set me up with someone I have nothing in common with just because they think Im desperate. And they are not wrong, I am lonely, but being with someone that I dont want to be with only makes me more lonely and sad that this person deserves someone that really likes them and is not with them only because they are their most convenient choice. 
Well, I actually typed in the sum of my feelings on google and This was better than I expected. You are courage inspiresme and I cry not of sadness but of a recognition that someone is taking a step forward in the same struggle that I am fighting internally.
SOmetimes I say, &quot;well, the reason that I am alone, is simple. Because Love is like anything else. THe more you pay in suffering the cancer of lonliness the greater the payoff and fate or god or some form of love karma, the fabricators of this existence would not, could not allow such a cunsuming pain so as to not be able to fully enjoy the beautiful existence they conceded this human. SomeONe had to show up. It almost feels like a right of existence, to have someone, which without we wander about like smiling zombies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been surrounded all my life buy friends and family. I have been alone all my life leaning on myself and being tough on valentines dayt, new years eve, at the beach, in my studies, at work, and anywhere that reminds me that Im alone ( thats virtually everywhere).I tried wearing an engagement band so people would stop asking why an attractive 25 year old man was doing without a woman. I get upset when my well meaning friends and family try to set me up with someone I have nothing in common with just because they think Im desperate. And they are not wrong, I am lonely, but being with someone that I dont want to be with only makes me more lonely and sad that this person deserves someone that really likes them and is not with them only because they are their most convenient choice.<br />
Well, I actually typed in the sum of my feelings on google and This was better than I expected. You are courage inspiresme and I cry not of sadness but of a recognition that someone is taking a step forward in the same struggle that I am fighting internally.<br />
SOmetimes I say, &#8220;well, the reason that I am alone, is simple. Because Love is like anything else. THe more you pay in suffering the cancer of lonliness the greater the payoff and fate or god or some form of love karma, the fabricators of this existence would not, could not allow such a cunsuming pain so as to not be able to fully enjoy the beautiful existence they conceded this human. SomeONe had to show up. It almost feels like a right of existence, to have someone, which without we wander about like smiling zombies.</p>
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